this is piers morgan live, welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. a. rod strikes unite. he is serving a 211 game suspension. in a doping scandal that involves many other players. the dodgers question his use of performance enhancing drugs. >> i'm sure there's been mistakes made along the way. we're here now. i'm a human being. i have had two hip surgeries, two knee surgeries, i'm fighting for my life. i have to defend myself, if i don't defend myself, no one else will. also caught on tape, three teens brutally beat on a school bus. did the driver do enough to stop the vicious attack.

looking at ariel castro's house of horrors in cleveland on wednesday. the bank that owns it will tear it down. what's next for the women he held captive for a decade. we'll talk to jaycee due guard's therapist. and how about this. a day of reckoning nor alex rodrigez for the yankees had a hit his first time up. with me, christine brennan. outside the stadium in chicago. jason carol. i'll begin with you, what is the mood down there, you had this big day where he's facing the suspension. there he is, marching out as a yankee. getting ahead very pleased for him. the guy is a cheat, isn't he? what is he doing there? >> you get a hit. you normally get cheered. that was not the case for alex rodrigez. you can hear boos echoing throughout the stadium. you're everything that's wrong with baseball.

this while he was up at bat. rodrigez basically suspected to get some of that type of response, even before this game started, though. there were some fans that were out there greeting him, he was signing autographs, but there has been a very emotionally trying time for alex rodrigez, that's what he said before the game got underway, when he was dealing with the press. he did dodge questions when he was specifically asked more than once if he had used performance enhancing drugs, he wanted the legal process to play itself out. he wasn't going to talk about that now, he did talk about the emotional toll this has taken on him. >> the last seven months has been a nightmare, it's been -- probably the worst time of my life for sure. >> we know that -- >> baseball is not holding back -- >> 12 other players have also

been suspended today. why is a. rod being singled out for what seems to be special punishment? >> well, i think it's the nature of what major league baseball is alleging here. and when you look at the statement they released today for the first time, you really get a sense of what's the type of evidence they have against him. you can hear it in part of their statements. it says the suspension is based on his use and possession of numerous forms of prohibited performance enhancing substances, including testosterone and hgh over the course of multiple years. rodrigez attempted to cover up the violations and in addition to that, to obstruct their investigation. so you have to believe that that's why rodriguez' punishment is so much stronger than the other dozen players are facing. >> thank you very much, indeed. >> the saga is far from over.

it isn't just lance armstrong in a yankees shirt, is it? >> caught the same way, piers. with documents and e-mails and evidence not with the drug test. and a man who's lied continually, and now here he is, the ultimate disgrace for himself in the long run and for the game and kids watching, here he is on the day he receives the longest suspension of the baseball steroids era, a. rod is now playing. starting a game in chicago. and it's -- i have no sympathy for him, he's one of the worst cheats, probably one of the worst cheats ever in the steroid air remark he deserves this long suspension he got today. >> what i can't understand, christine, is it what he's doing walking out for the yankees today. i can't understand why the process allows him to. i can't understand why the yankees haven't just benched him. where is their integrity in all of this?

>> the yankees didn't want him around as we know. there were hopes from the yankees and from the stallworth's and commissioner's office that he be kicked out for life. the baseball owners, piers and the union are starting to get along, and that's what we saw with these other guys all taking their suspensions. a. rod wouldn't go along with that, it's a shame. it would be a lifetime ban. he'll be 40 in 2015 and that would be the time that he would be coming back if he took this, this is purely ego, purely a man trying to make more money understandable, from his end, although, again, i mean, he is such a terrible cheat. the volumes of evidence, for those saying, how do we know for sure. he was trying as of yesterday to broker a deal. if he didn't cheat, why would he be trying to broker a deal. he didn't get his way, now he gets to keep playing. i agree, the yankees could have sat him down. >> talk about sport generally and completing. we're seeing athletics riddled

with cheats, sprinters exposed again. we've seen the baseball players now, we've seen all sorts of cheats popping up in all sorts of different disciplines, the two sports we've seen moderately protected golf and tennis, they have their act together. why you can't the other sports do what is happening in tennis and golf? >> today piers, this is a great day for baseball. they're starting to do that, this drug bust shows that, baseball is so late to the party, the olympic sports and -- that would be tennis too. golf is late to the game as well. we're not sure they're catching all their cheaters. the olympic sports, if you look at this, 1972, is when the olympic games started drug testing, it was 32 years later when major league baseball started to really test it's players. because of the baseball union, it's incredibly strong and i think it answers a lot of your questions. the union has fought tooth and

nail, they've seen the validity of going with the good guys in baseball. the majority who are not taking drugs and get the bad guys for all these years the union has sided with the a. rods of the world and the ryan brauns, and that's pushed baseball back and makes it late to getting into the steroid game in a big way. >> stay with me, i want to bring in donny deutsch to get the branding, the reputational damage here. to a. rod, to the yankees and to major league baseball. >> all of the above. >> i watched him with all of the sports figures, and all of the people we've seen fall from grace, he's the most delusional and unappealing we've seen. to sit there and say he's fighting for his life. you're fighting against the truth, it's been very well documented. this is not an innocent guy. to say that this is a nightmare, this is a man detached from reality. as far as a yankee fan, i don't want to see him in a baseball uniform.

this is not a guy that at the peak of his career, this is a guy who is coming off hip surgery. >> not even playing that well. >> and why the yankees couldn't make a statement to their fans, have them sit on the bench, you want to come back to baseball, you're on the other end of the bench. i as a guy, manage businesses, watch corporations. >> i agree. obviously a. rod was this wonder kid, he's going to be the great new future ironically, he's going to come in to clean up the reputation of baseball. it turns out he's the biggest cheat of them all. what happens now with baseball? you said they're cleaning up, a. rod's done gone i guess, but now what? we have to trust again that the next wonder kid is going to be clean? >> i don't know that we can ever trust again. and that's a shame. for any baseball fan who believes this is over, that is just not the case. this is the beginning of the

steroids era in baseball. the olympics as we talked a few moments ago, the olympics has a 32 year head start in terms of drug testing. the olympics has a steroids problem and is catching cheaters. baseball fans, get used to it, batten down the hatches this is going to be another three decades at least of this kind of thing, there's more money in baseball than there is in the olympic games. >> it's big, big business now, in all these sports, whether it's cycling or athletics or baseball, whatever, to me, the only way you deal with this properly is say first offense, you're out for two years, whatever it is, you do it again, as a. rod has done, lifetime ban, mandatory. it's all over. >> it's not a baseball problem, it's the culture problem. we have the biggest hedge fund right now indicted for insider trading. we have teachers who fake kids scores so they can make more money. we have the media celebrating breaking the rules.

we don't look down on it, and we look shocked whether it's baseball, wall street, teaching. and i -- we have become a nation -- i don't want to say this blanketly, but where cheating is somewhat -- as long as you don't get caught, it's okay about. >> i've had a lot of people say to me, about a. rod, people that like baseball, the trouble is, it's more fun when they hit big home runs, that's why we like maguire, bonds and a. rod, they may be taking drugs, but they whack it out of the park. once you're in that mind-set, anything goes, doesn't it? >> yes, that's true. lance armstrong overnight.on there is another side to that story, it's really about the kids. we have a steroid epidemic in

terms of high schoolkids and boys and girls, girl athletes as well as boy athletes. 1.5 million kids, wonderful foundation, people should look up their website. 1.5 million kids on steroids in this country. where do they get the idea to do it? from the a. rods of the world. we have to keep trying to catch these guys. >> i agree. i have three teenaged sons, they respond to what these sporting heroes do, they copy them, embrace the culture. >> well, that's not -- >> i want to show you the front page on the new york post. this is what i think, just go. >> if you talk to 95% of new yorkers they would say the same thing. i don't believe the average kid is just completely swayed by an athlete. parents have the ability to step in, this guy -- this is a despicable guy. this is a guy -- i don't want to go too far on this, because he didn't kill anybody, but this is a guy who is just a liar again and again and again. the ultimate nonteammate, because he's disgracing that uniform, and i really shame on

the yankees, shame on the yankees. he did not have to be out there tonight. >> the yankees should have shown integrity and benched him tonight. he shouldn't be playing again. it's over for you, a. rod as it was for lance armstrong. christine brennan, unfortunately, you and i i'm sure will talk about another sport, another great athletic legend maybe, football legend and it will go on until the authorities slap down such monstrous fines and punishments that these guys don't want to do it any more. thank you so much. >> sad day for sport. an attack on a school bus, three boys reigning down. did the drive i do enough to stop it? i'll talk to him, the bus driver, coming up next. it's not a candy bar. 130 calories 7 grams of protein the fiber one caramel nut protein bar. the fiber one

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breaking news tonight out of three teens brutally beating a young boy, the driver calls the dispatcher asking for help. listen to this. >> get out here, quick, quick, quick. the boy is not breathing. >> there's nothing i can do. >> the driver didn't step in. he's lucky his injuries weren't far worse. joining me now is the bus driver, john moody, along with his attorney. welcome to both of you. mr. moody, it's a horrible video to watch. i'm sure it's a horrible thing for you to observe as a bus driver. for those of you who think you should have intervened, what is your response? >> well, my response to that is, it's been policy that bus drivers do not jump in the middle of a fight.

and me jumping in the middle of that fight with three boys would have been dangerous for other students on the bus as well as myself. >> right. i hope you don't mind me saying, these are three strapping teenagers all clearly with a propensity for extreme violence. when i saw it, i understood completely why you wouldn't want to get involved. do you believe with hindsight you could have done anything else than what you did? >> in hindsight i got on the radio, radioed in, the dispatchers could barely hear me it was so noisy on the bus. we finally got help out, it was just one of those things that it just happened, shouldn't have happened, but it happened.

>> how do you feel personally, when you look at this video again. and it's so awful. do you feel any sense of guilt or responsibility notwithstanding the rules of this? notwithstanding the fact that at 64 you shouldn't be expected to jump in? how do you feel personally about what happened? >> i took it personal. i had many sleepless nights, i had nightmares, couldn't sleep, it was terrible. looking at that, it was like i was looking at a bad dream. and it was just -- i'm feeling now, it's just a terrible thing to watch that happen. >> there is a comments here from the gulfport police chief robert vincent which i want to play. >> there was clearly an opportunity for him to intervene and check on the child in this case, and he didn't make any effort to do so. >> what is your reaction to what

the police chief said there? >> well, i didn't want to move the kids. he might have been injured, and i was trying my best to get some help out there on the radio. as far as moving the kid, i couldn't do it. >> it seems to be a little tension on you and your supposed inaction. not enough attention in my view on these three horrible little thugs who were doing the beating up. do you feel that the attention is skewed here in the wrong place? should we be focusing on what these three little barbarians did? >> well, i think it's more on me because i didn't do what people thought i should have done. >> you feel it's fair that you're getting all the flack when these kids, these thugs are seen on camera trying to kill this kid.

>> i don't think it's fair, no. >> not fair. >> you're the attorney for mr. moody. >> yes, sir. >> it does seem to be an odd disparity, although they've called these kids, all the attention today is on what your client supposedly didn't do, in my view, there's not enough attention on what these thugs were doing. >> well, that and also, i mean, what could he have done? i invite the gulfport police chief to give us a re-enactment of what he could have done. the policy says don't touch a child, and he acted calmly, in a very stressful situation by calling dispatch. and a lot of attention needs to go to the administrators at this school, who were aware of the situation. mr. moody was blind to what was going on, these three, two of these individuals, two of the attackers tried to sell this victim drugs, the victim told

school authorities and it was a pressure cooker there, which mr. moody had no way of knowing, and school officials let these two boys back on the bus. or let them on the bus. and mr. moody had no idea what happened at the school, and like i said, it was a pressure cooker and nothing he could have done. >> final question for you, will you carry on, driving buses in light of what's happened here? >> i retired piers, i retired, at 18 years was enough. >> this was the final straw for you? >> yeah, yes, it was a big straw too. well, as far as i'm concerned, you did nothing wrong at all, and the blame should be attached to the thugs that did the beating many. >> i think the flack you're getting is ridiculous. you're a 64-year-old man and you should not be expected to deal with these hoodlums. >> thank you.

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new details on the terror threat, that triggered the closing of nearly two dozen u.s. embassies and consulates and has u.s. officials on edge. the second in command in yemen, do something. hundreds of terrorists, it raises a spector on the last

attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi. erin burnett takes a look at that in a special that airs tomorrow. very timely your investigation. what are the key takeaways we can look forward to seeing tomorrow? >> what you're seeing right now, is definitely related to what we saw and what we didn't see in terms of benghazi. we know the when, but not the where, so we're going to close things down. you're seeing reaction now . >> what happened in benghazi and 9/11. we have to look like we're doing everything we can? >> in a sense, depends on who you ask. some people say it is an over reaction, you're telling al okayed saturday, you don't have to do anything, and we're going to close all these embassies don. what happens once the window of warning is over. that being said, i talked to the chairman of the house intelligence committee today.

he said the chatter they feel exceeded what they saw at benghazi. >> you can't deny the level of intelligence here, they have intercepted messages from al zawahiri, the head of al qaeda ordered them to do something, these are the two top players in al qaeda, directly in contact planning something big. >> and that's what intelligence sources are saying, this was more specific, this is not just a general, we're angry, we're upset, ween watt people motivated to our cause. they feel that it was -- and some people speculated this could mean there's a chemical attack or an unconventional attack, that's why they had to shut everything down. it wouldn't be caught by dogs that could sniff bombs or machines, they're saying they don't think it was chemical, but obviously at this point it's classified. so we don't know. >> let's get to the benghazi investigation. have you an interview with jeff

porter, he was the man who briefed ambassador steve and was killed that night on security. let's watch a clip from that interview. >> why was manpower so lacking in benghazi? >> we're talking about a cia mission in benghazi. whose information. the purpose was to collect information, to collect weapons, potentially. and they may have deliberately wanted to keep a low security profile. >> because they didn't understand, they just underestimated the threat? >> that's right. but i think one of the problems in benghazi at the time was there were so many armed groups, the u.s. couldn't identify the threat, they couldn't distinguish which was a group threatening the united states' interest. and which was simply a violent nonstate actor pursuing their own agenda. there was a real deficit of understanding, a real lack of situational awareness. >> this confirms my sense about benghazi.

it was just general chaos and disinformation and lack of real understanding of what was going on on the ground. >> that's leading into it, on the other end it was what they were doing about it, leading in, this is what happened. they couldn't tell one group from another. you'll see in the documentary, earlier in the morning, when chris stevens was there, he had seen men across the street from the compound taking cell phone pictures. he reported it to local police, he went ahead with his schedule, you don't know, could be nothing, it could be something, and as jeff porter who briefed him said, it was a situation where probably nothing would go wrong, but if it did, it would be catastrophic. wesley clark, all of them talk about this, you know, general hayden goes so far as to say when he was talking to john king, he thinks there isn't a single person involved who doesn't have regrets about what they did and why they did it. >> the key thing is what happens next to prevent it from happening again, we are seeing in realtime the very extreme action that the american administration is now taking to try to prevent another benghazi, aren't we?

>> we are. and that goes to using the words al qaeda, that night when -- we'll go through what happened in the situation room, when the president was briefed, when the white house and pentagon got that e-mail from the state department. as we all know, it took a very long time before that became the formal message out of this administration. we'll talk about why that happened and why there was that delay. and who knew what when. it's part of what we worked on. >> in the end, where do we see the culpability. >> it goes in a few places, there is some culpability on the administration, this is a white house that was running for re-election on the message we have defeated al qaeda. >> i was in somali when he gave that statement. we said it doesn't feel like that right now. he definitely had a message. there are some real complaints

about how they handled it that seemed very fair, you have the republicans who have politicized this, when you're talking about people's lives. >> everyone criticizes haven't they, in the end. your very moving interviews with relatives of those who lost their lives. that brings the human side here away from the politics. it's a powerful investigation. it's called the truth about benghazi, erin burnett, 10:00 p.m. eastern. >> thank you very much. you're looking rather blooming. >> that's a nice way to say it. i'm rather large. i'll talk to the experts coming up next. ariel castro's family moves items out of the house they call the monster of cleveland. is that true? says here that cheerios has whole grain oats that can help remove some cholesterol, and that's heart healthy. ♪ [ dad ] jan?

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ariel castro's family moves items out of the house they call the monster of cleveland. his house will be leveled to the ground. a long journey to recovery is only beginning. talking to their psychiatrist. who testified for the prosecution, at castro's sentencing.

how important is it do you think to have this house of horrors torn to pieces for the victims in particular? >> i think it's a good move. tim mcginty is the cuyahoga county prosecutor. and i really got to know him, and love him in the course of this. and he wants to tear that down. i think the act of tearing it down is something that's aggressive. and it also is changing that neighborhood. the neighbors are going to appreciate it, whatever is done is going to be done there with taste. it's going to add value, it's going to take away a symbol and a reminder of something that we really want to forget. >> i want to play you a clip from michelle knight who spoke movingly on friday. one of the three girls who was kidnapped. >> with the guidance of god, i will prevail and help others who

suffered at the hands of others. writing this statement gave me the strength to be a stronger woman. after 11 years, i am finally being heard and it's liberating. >> it seemed very brave didn't it? michelle knight, to go to court, to make the statement in public. the other two girls decided not to do that. what did you make of her performance and what she said? >> piers, i was right there, i was eight feet away from her when she said it. she was flanked by women who were twice as large as she is physically, but she's as big as all out doors. i found myself applauding spontaneously, i don't know if it was right to do that as a psychiatrist, a doctor in a courtroom. but it was electrifying. i think she does something to noble this tough -- from being treated as less than a human being in so many ways, to

asserting humanity. she did so much for the others in that household. i don't know if all your viewers understand, she delivered that baby. the baby wasn't breathing. she breathed life into that baby. and she was the only one who had an idea of what needed to be done, and she did it all. >> and there was a sense i felt in that courtroom, very dramatic scenes, when you were watching it live, ariel castro was diminishing before our eyes, all that fake power he had wielded over these three young women. disintegrated with every word michelle knight said. she was almost reclaiming the power. >> well, she was, and when it was his turn to speak, it was -- it was really unbelievable. i think his lawyers were astounded he rambled on, and he tried to make light of what he

had done to claim that there was harmony in that house. piers, there are a lot of men like him. they don't capture other women and hold them there for a decade. but they hold their families hostage. i think a lot of our viewers tonight are kneeling, would you recognize me? i've gone through this, i've been captured by a brutal father or stepfather or uncle and i can't tell my story. these survivors are telling a story, i would estimate we're talking about millions of women and of men, boys. boys are subjected to this as well. >> i absolutely agree. thank you very much indeed for joining me, sir. they spent a decade as prisoners, what's next for castro's former captives. joining me now is co author of

"safe kids smart parents." what parents need to do to keep their children safe. what do you think of -- particularly of what michelle knight said on friday, in terms of being liberated by this. how realistic is it that these three young women can be liberated in the near future? >> i absolutely believe that they can be liberated? it's going to be a slow process. her strength, her willingness to sit there and speak the way she did was just amazing, and fabulous. for each one of the victims that go through situations like this, it's really an individualized decision as to whether they want to sit in the courtroom with the person or not. but what i saw for her was tremendous courage you were talking about as well. >> people have -- some people have suggested perhaps very unfairly this was an example of the stockholm syndrome. one of the reasons these three

women didn't collaborate earlier to break three, they had a kind of weird hold to castro, that he wielded above them and they responded to. what is your take on that? >> i think the stockholm syndrome has been overplayed on some levels. jaycee due guard is the one who taught me the most about how offensive for many victims it can be to consider that they actually fall in love with their captors. it's an adaptation process, there are components that we all understand that are in the so called stockholm syndrome, but really that's so important to remember that people do what they need to do to survive, and to call it love, anything like a maternal healthy or paternal healthy relationship is erroneous. that's my input on that. >> from all your work with jaycee dugard and many others,

what is the best advice you could give these three young women from cleveland as they try to get back to normality in their lives? >> absolutely, to not let their past define them. there's going to be a period where the focus is on them with press and media, et cetera. but to be able to go forward and let their life unfold in front of them, without carrying that with them, that goes for that little girl jocelyn as well, we have to allow her to be okay. and hopefully they have built a community around them of supporters that can help keep that goal in mind. they need to not let themselves be held back in the past. they've got a lot of grieving, a lot of work to go through. but at their own pace, in their own way. >> thank you very much indeed. >> thank you so much for having me. coming up next, my interview with elise jordan, the widow of michael hastings on her husband's life and work.

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michael hastings was a brilliant young journalist whose life was cut short in a car crash in june. as you'll see, he was as passionate as ever. >> i think there's many other reasons he should have resigned besides who he's sleeping with, that's not his wife. i want to make a point, the larger point i've been making, is that essentially the media has played a role in protecting game david petraeus. >> for the first time we're going to hear now from his widow, elise jordan.

>> thanks for having me. >> you've been a regular on the show as well as michael. incredibly sad, incredibly tragic. how are you, first of all. >> taking day by day. i was blessed to have the time with him that i had. so i feel very lucky for that, and taking day by day. >> there have been as there always are in these situations, wild conspiracy theorys he was chasing some hot story. maybe connected to that his late night car crash in los angeles. other theorys too, do you subscribe to any of this? do you have any idea really what -- >> no, very no doubt that he was pursuing a hot story. he always had at least five hot stories going. that was michael. so -- and he also -- there will be published his profile of john brennan in an upcoming issue of rolling stone in a couple weeks, right now the lapd still has an active investigation, i don't really have anything to add, my gut here is that it was just a

really tragic accident and i'm unlucky in the world, the world was very unlucky. >> the passion he brought that night on the show, he ripped into petraeus and all those defending him, and so on. he was a passionate man, wasn't he? >> he loved to always challenge conventional wisdom, that's what i think -- there was so much controversy surrounding the mcchrystal article. if people actually read the article it's less about the quotes heard there than it is the entire narrative he brought together, which was challenging the counterinsurgency was working in afghanistan. with the publication of that article you can see the trajectory of that and war changed and had made, had such an impact. >> a huge impact. the "new york times" after he died published an obituary casting a doubt on michael's -- you wrote to the "new york

times" demanding they retract some of the comments. tell me about that. >> ridiculous and classless. i think the "new york times" has a real problem sometimes, other people get scoops and recognizing the contributions of other journalists. if they bothered to read the report she would see what she put out there was factually inaccurate. i feel strongly they should have a retraction, clearly the "new york times" management can't step up to the plate and admit they made a mistake. >> shocking behavior by the "new york times." you were right, they were wrong. turning to the general news agenda since michael's death, he loved all this, wouldn't he? the nsa, edward snowden, the chatter, right up his wheelhouse? >> no, i mean, absolutely. there isn't a more contiguous time for national security reporters than right now.

a crackdown on national security reporters. they're risking going to prison if they don't reveal their sources. they have launched investigations on war whistle-blowers in the previous three administrations combined. definitely there was a climate i feel like fear, of it made their job -- made michael's job a hole lot more difficult but motivated him more than ever to go out, tell the truth and challenge authority and call for more transparency in government. >> for those who scorn on kind of investigative journalist, many do, it's a lonely business. what is it like to be married to someone like that? occasionally scary and all the other things that go with it? >> it made really exciting and wonderful to be with such a passionate person who really cared so much. he cared so much for telling the stories other people didn't want to tell and always said to choose a big target.

it you're going after someone, you don't go after the runt in the field. you choose your target big. he felt that was the fair way to go about his writing. >> there's a paperback came out. a book that he was on to promote the last time i spoke with him. "the operators." the war in afghanistan. tell me about the book. >> it's a really wonderful book, and to me, i think it will be remembered as the best narrative nonfiction of kind of this decade and in these decades of war, because it is the story of when he went on the in-bed with general mcchrystal but it's much more. disconnect between those on the ground and policymakers back in washington totally disconnected from it. >> had you look at all the current stories and stuff, where do you think michael would have drawn the line between what should be in the public domain and what shouldn't be?

in terms of where you decide what's in the national interests to keep quiet and what to publish? >> michael was a pretty big believer in radical transparency overall but in his previous commentary on wikileaks, for example, he is, was a supporter of julien assange but felt the redaction should have been taken more seriously and mistakes were made and had they have been more careful in just secure -- that's the heavy burden of these whistle-blowers, if they're going to do it and they're going to make a big statement, if they are going to release highly classified documents it has to be absolutely perfect. >> you a yankees' fan? >> not really. >> because you're a new yorker. right? >> now i live in new york, but i'm a mississippi girl. i like the braves. >> a view on a-rod, playing tonight. not playing well. but he has $175,000 after being exposed as a cheat. >> i think he could care less at this point.

he's made a ton of money. set some records. he feel, ah, my legacy is set in other ways. i could care less what would michael have thought? not a lot, i suspect. >> jo think he was really at the top of michael's list of concerns in life. michael was believer in fairness and i don't think he would have approved of a-rod necessarily. >> were you surprised by the incredible outpouring of attention that michael's death got? the tributes and accolades that came? >> i think it's a real testament to his legacy and what he stood for, and you know, what a passionate supporter he was of liberty, of human rights, of freedom. of the right to free speech, and so i was definitely, it meant so much to me. all the lovely thing that people, and your tribute. thank you so much for that, too. >> an incredible force. a brave, courageous man. it's desperately sad.

for us, everyone in the media and the viewers, but particular will for you, obviously. an honor, working amongst other people towards the end and to honor his legacy they credited michael hastings national security reporting in his honor. >> i know. that could not be more wonderful and supportive and i feel so blessed that michael was a part of the family and they are still thinking of me and doing wonderful gestures like this to solidify his legacy as a premiere reporter and career. >> entirely what he was. you're right to feel very proud of him. thank you for coming up's in a wild and terrifying story by the late, great michael hastings available now. good to see you. >> thanks. we'll be right back.

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